Kentucky on July.

The 15th.

I wanna that.

It's the end of the week Friday and we go inside Kentucky politics.

We have 2 of our phase with us because we've got a lot to break down in just a few minutes.

Bob Babbage is joining me in the studio and Trey Grayson, who is where for Trey Grayson We're glad to have you joining let's start with some unfortunate, tragic news that we got.

>> This morning about Congressman Thomas Massie.

I'll yield to you first read Grayson, not his wife was found dead this morning there's been a lot of condolences pouring in, of course, from other legislative leaders and others and policy roles.

And so just fill us in on what we know about this situation.

>> Search Rondo.

Rondo mass e-commerce Messi's wife and going back.

Actually, they were high school sweethearts and Louis County went to MIT together, came back home to Louis County to to raise a family.

They also have a got.

She was found dead this morning.

Just real tragedy.

And I for many of us of oaks a couple of years ago when a similar tragedy with the 6th District Congressman Andy Barr.

I'm also finding his tragically you know it.

It's just it's horrible when this happens and it's really unfortunate that we've had this happened twice in the last 2 years, Kentuckyian, you know, this is one of the things that cuts across our political ideological lines.

It's just it's just sad.

It's tough all around him.

We really feel for the congressman and his family.

Bob, remember the day that but young county judge of Lewis County came to Frankfort with his wife and children.

>> Rhonda and or what the locals are capital to sign up to run for Congress was given very little one decisively.

What a story from a rural county.

A couple goes to MIT.

From there, invents things and it was so positive, so optimistic and so much fun to talk to always.

And many people work with him is all the rules Committee important role for sure.

After 6 terms, was just a shock or a gut punch.

Yeah.

And of course, our condolences go to the congressman and the family.

>> Let's take a pivot to talk about last This is the President Trump.

>> And former President Trump and the Joe Biden debate, a CNN hosted and moderated.

And there's a lot of spend it was even happening before the show ended last night.

And the one word to use.

I think Trey Grayson, a lot is panic when it comes to Democrats who are in a tailspin about the performance of President Joe Biden last night where we go from here.

>> Well, the one thing that people need to be reminded of his presidential races are different than any other race.

And so while both candidates are the presumptive nominees, their parties, neither is actually officially the nominee, not officially on the ballot.

The parties will do that either at their convention for the Democrats are talking about having a virtual convention because of a filing deadline challenge and Ohio.

So it's not too late, which is a conversation I don't think we ever would have thought we would be having.

But this is an unprecedented race with the rematch.

2 former presidents at debate in June.

And you know, Vice President Biden, fellow was was.

Was Bama's.

There's just no sugarcoating.

It when he he clearly probably had a cold city in a raspy voice, but he lost his train of thought on several occasions.

And I was watching the post debate coverage on CNN where our friend Scott was on the panel and that action would let him talk because somebody that Democrats are weighing really concerned about the party.

But John King began.

But just talking about how many tax you've gotten from high ranking Democrats throughout the debate are really worried about the party's chances in the fall.

If Biden were remain on the ballot.

But it was I think if you if you had low expectations from if if you're a Democrat for Biden to clear he didn't come close to doing that.

And so panic as a war.

That's not an exaggeration right now.

We'll see what it's like in 48 hours.

72 hours.

That's not good right?

>> Audie Cornish.

She was on the stage our friend Scott Jennings from CNN last night.

Put it this way that one candidate had to prove that he wasn't infirmed and the other candidate needed to prove that he was stable.

Bob Babbage do.

What is your assessment of how each perform last night and particularly the President, Joe Biden?

>> There was a fair for him for sure.

Probably the worst presidential debate that anybody can remember.

Going back to when we see them all.

We've seen highlights of the mall.

We've watched them alive.

This was not a good showing some 35 years by the former president who need to prove one thing.

It was better when I was there.

So if you put me there again, a jump over a Joe Biden.

It's got to get better again.

That was his mission.

And despite some of the elegant misstatements.

The comes to Biden just had to show that he could handle the situation and he did not.

So you might be able to.

Alter the Trump approach somehow, but you can't alter the other given now what people have seen and how they made their mind up for change a lot, especially the undecided voters are very interesting to look at their not miss.

Typecast as we make them out to be.

So they do move around.

The last night was was tough and the texting I was receiving was, oh, my God.

This is truly awful.

Devolving into discussion of golf.

I mean, really some of the suggested we could have of.

The moderator who might have did some of those things.

That would be the way you do it here on this set where we're sitting correcting realigning things refraining.

Think so.

You actually get to an answer.

It was it is hard to achieve out last night.

Yeah.

>> Well, kudos to Jake Tapper and Dana Bash for being down the middle.

I think they did a fairly good job of that agreement and taking them both on equally.

I'm we know that there's Joe Biden still wants to do this in September.

we'll see how that The next second round.

So let's talk about one SCOTUS ruling Supreme Court.

United States have been several that have come down this week, but we want to hone in on the one today that allows cities now to enforce bans on homeless, staying so the tray real quick, this as a lot of locations for Kentucky because of the Safer Kentucky Act that was just passed by the Legislature.

>> Yes, to Kentucky Act.

House Bill 5 continue, though.

A law similar to the one that was considered by the Supreme Court and what these laws are trying to get out or not the kind of a us folks that, you know, what kind of used to the last couple of decades.

But one of the rise is the last years of these big encampments with large numbers of homeless folks who treated the where they're staying as a as of that, they were their homes and resist attempts to to move them to other places, shelters or whatever, whatever.

Of course, one of the challenges we I think we talked about this a couple months ago is where they actually go with the Supreme Court case as the city's have the ability to in to enforce these kind of laws that went past a lot of the breakup, these usually some type of criteria.

There's a public safety a health issue.

But it wasn't clear before the case and now it is.

>> Have anything you want to add that Bob?

>> Police will have to use some judgment about dealing with the situations.

We have a rising number of homeless.

Just take Lexington, for example, recently called the second-best run government and city in America.

That's a sensitive police department that must encounter this.

We are growing over a growing number of children over several 100 children now homeless and the city tough situation for the long haul.

thought of the Kentucky law being changed somehow the court releases going.

It's here to stay starts.

The 15th and people are getting ready and trying to figure out right now.

That's right.

>> Thank you, Bob Babbage.

Thank you, Trey Grayson, always good to have you both.

Have a good weekend.